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Why Severus Snape? Analysis, discussion, exchange of Snape-fans or Snappish people
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Mal
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Snape's wand |
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I've been wondering what materials Snape's wand would be, and I don't know if it's represented anywhere. But if you take this list of Celtic trees on JKR's website:
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December 24 - January 20 = Birch (Beth)
January 21 - February 17 = Rowan (Luis)
February 18 - March 17 = Ash (Nion)
March 18 - April 14 = Alder (Fearn)
April 15 - May 12 = Willow (Saille)
May 13 - June 9 = Hawthorn (Uat)
June 10 - July 7 = Oak (Duir)
July 8 - August 4 = Holly (Tinne)
August 5 - September 1 = Hazel (Coll)
September 2 - September 29 = Vine (Muin)
September 30 - October 27 = Ivy (Gort)
October 28 - November 24 = Reed (Ngetal)
November 25 - December 22 = Elder (Ruis) |
you see, that if in Snape's case wood-material of the wand is Birch according to this calendar, what does Birch tell about Snape?
I made some research from some websites:
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The Birch Tree.. 24 December - 20 January - To the druids, the Birch represented renewel and rebirth as it was the first tree in leaf after winter. Birch people are determined, resilient and ambitious. Good organisers, leaders and strategists, they are not deterred by setbacks, believing hard work, patience and persistance will triumph. They are loyal but reserved in showing affection.
The Ruling Diety - The Celtic Warrior God Lugh, inventor of all arts and crafts, rules this sign.
The Druic Animal - The white stag symbolises high ideals and aspirations - Birch people need a goal in life or they become depressed and pessimistic. Planetary Ruler - Sun Ogham Word - Beithe |
from: http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/amethystbt/celtictreeastrology.html
Actually, very Snape to me. But that White Stag? Do I even have to say anything about that?
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...The month of Birch is a good time to do magick associated with new beginnings. Magickal work done in this moon adds strength and momentum to any new choices made.
The Birch has applications in magick done for protection, creativity, exorcism, fertility, birth, healing, Forest Magic, Inner Authority/Self-Discipline, Lunar workings, love, and purification... |
From: http://www.dutchie.org/Tracy/trees/celtic_tree_birch.html
There's a lot more information about birch, so if you're interested I suggest you to read more from that website!
I highlighted some parts again. Snape has done some healing (Dumbledores hand, sectumsempra) and I think he is some kind of protector (saving Harry etc)
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Birch tree characters hold the seed potential of all the signs. The virtue of patience is attributed to this sign, a necessary requirement when dealing with such potential. People born under this sign direct their energy and enterprise through ambitious strategy; each step taken in life has a specific goal in mind. The obstacles can, however, be quite formidable. Personal limitations are not readily accepted, as birch tree characters become more resolute and determined
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Positive aspects
Birch tree characters are reliable and trustworthy people, not given to rash moves or bold statements.
The second-son aspect in the mythology of the sign has an interesting parallel, pyschologically speaking. Birch tree characters often take on the role as head of the house, not through seniority of birth, but because they take family responsibilities very seriously. They are usually the most successful members of the family in financial terms, although they might not appear so as they do not flaunt their success or generally waste money on the symbols of affluence.
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A rigid outlook can promote a pessimistic character and impose a form of self-discipline that can be difficult to sustain. Their willpower can therefore alternate, or fall between two extremes, resulting in some wild behaviour or acting out of character that may surprise even close colleagues. It may, however, go to the other extreme of acting with great discipline and determination at certain times - but never consistently. Undisciplined birch tree characters are unhappy individuals.
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Birch tree characters actually thrive best on strict routines and regimes. The term 'workaholic' fits them perfectly...
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From: http://www2.pfeiffer.edu/~lridener/personal/birch.html
Those things I quoted are just a little piece of information from that website, there's many more interesting things. So, again: If you're interested, click that link
I think there is a lot more information about birch and about it's meanings, but here's some facts about this Snape + possible birch wand subject
But I would be happy to hear your opinions  |
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LadyOfThePensieve
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Austria, olŽEurope
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Or this one:
*Jan 01 to Jan 11 - Fir Tree -(the Mysterious)
FIR TREE - extraordinary taste, dignity, sophisticated,loves anything beautiful, moody, stubborn, tends to egoism but cares for those close to them, rather modest, very ambitious, talented, industrious, uncontented lover, many friends, many foes, very reliable
Foubnd here: http://www.geocities.com/dancingbfly/ctrees.htm
What tree did you fall from?
This is really cool and somewhat accurate it's also in line with Celtic astrology. |
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mary

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 226 Location: t'North (the northeast, actually, of the U.S.)
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Okay - I did this before (on livejournal last month), but here is my wand description. This is among the original creative work my sister and I did for our Harry Potter parties at the library; I wrote these at least four or five years ago, before I even knew when Professor Snape's birthday was and before we knew Harry's, Ron's and Hermione's wands fit into the Celtic wands calendar.
Here it is:
Birch:
This wood symbolizes flexibilty, grace, and subtlety. The young owner of this wand is likely to be intelligent and to learn quickly. He or she may also seem timid and unsure, and may be inclined to give up rather than struggling with difficult problems; this young person must work on following through. In spite of their apparent shyness, many owners of birch wands are skilled in sports requiring speed, grace and balance, such as dance, gymnastics and quidditch. Their intelligence and imagination will allow young witches and wizards chosen by birch to succeed in many fields if they apply themselves.
Birch (or pine) with dragon heartstring: This young witch or wizard is likely to be skilled in potions, especially those derived from plants.
Birch with unicorn hair: This youngster may be unusually talented in divination.
Birch with phoenix feather: Often, this youngster exhibits great natural talent for herbology, sometimes combined with an ability for potions or healing spells.
Wand descriptions by Mary Johnson |
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Sionna Raven

Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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JKR said on her website that she only checked the Celtic tree chart (as published on her site) for the trios wands. Recently she added that Draco's wand, hawthorn, per coincidence also matches his birthday, the same coincidence with Snape's is one too many imo.
For this reason I tend to believe that Snape's wand wood is based on general folklore, fairytales and myth, which gives us: rowan = defense against evil magic or witchcraft; ash = powerful wand wood from Norse mythology or blackthorn = the traditional English wood for magician staffs and wands.
I favour rowan or blackthorn. The rowan tree is quite similar to Snape, thin, bendy, easily overlooked in the forest among all the large trunks of oaks and beeches. The berries are bitter and said to be poisonous, but they are not. They are quite wholesome in fact. Birds of all sizes feed on the berries, because they dry on the tree and are still available late in winter. A full grown rowan is an impressive tree, but they rarely get that old. Like birches rowans grow almost everywhere, simply pop up where a bit of earth and sunlight can be found. The birch is a definitely female tree, the rowan though most fruit-bearing trees are female is often considered to be male. I can't help it, but underestimated, misjudged as poisonous, bitter and seen as a large weed by most people, while having healing powers, fits Snape. In some regions rowan branches are hung over doors or fireplaces to fend off witches, Defense against the Dark Arts.
Blackthorn is the wand wood in folklore and we still haven't seen a blackthorn wand in Potterverse. Muggles tend to feel uneasy about blackthorn wands, thinking of Dark Wizards, but it's neutral, can be used for White and Black Magic and is extremely powerful for defense.
I don't really understand the properties of wandcores. Is there a reference? I mentioned phoenix feather before in connection with the mad idea that Voldemort got a new wand to avoid a second Priori Incantatem and ends up with the brother of Snape's wand. Imagine the irony and it should provide Snape with the best alibi, Dumbledore's ghost emerging from his wand, protecting him against Voldemort. That's something even Harry should understand and accept! I'd love to see that happen, but don't dare to hope.
Sionna _________________
You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything!
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IUSnape

Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Location: Apparating to a town near you
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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....here is my wand description. This is among the original creative work my sister and I did for our Harry Potter parties at the library; I wrote these at least four or five years ago, before I even knew when Professor Snape's birthday was and before we knew Harry's, Ron's and Hermione's wands fit into the Celtic wands calendar.
Wand descriptions by Mary Johnson |
Mary, if you're out there, can you share where I can find the other wand descriptions? I'm especially curious about elder wood... _________________ "... he was smiling in a way that told Harry he and Ron were in very deep trouble."  |
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mary

Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 226 Location: t'North (the northeast, actually, of the U.S.)
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hi - I did reply privately, but, basically, I'm not sure where you'd find a description for elder wood wands. Rowling herself has a link to celtic tree lore on her website; I think it's in miscellaneous or 'other' information. Let me know if you can't find it, and I'll post the exact link here.
As for my wand descriptions - well, that's just me, based on what I know about some of our common New England trees and their growth. It doesn't mean anything at all. I was just pleased and surprised that my 'birch' description came so close to the 'official' ones.
The woods my sister and I described are birch (or pine, or cherry - these three are similar in appearance and birch and pine often grow in similar places - plus they are soft woods.) Oak, Maple, Hickory or other nut, Willow, and Holly. |
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IUSnape

Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Location: Apparating to a town near you
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mary. I did check Jo's site, but it didn't say anything about elder wands, pretty much just specifics for certain characters.
I enjoyed the wand description you'd posted--very thorough. _________________ "... he was smiling in a way that told Harry he and Ron were in very deep trouble."  |
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Lone_Samurai FanArt Promoter

Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Under Your Bed
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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I was told it's black pine from the east but that could be wrong. I think it's made birch!
 _________________ Byakuya.1000 cherry blossoms can't compare...
...To you.
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inverness

Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 108 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| I would imagine ebony (with a unicorn-hair core) |
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Lone_Samurai FanArt Promoter

Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 579 Location: Under Your Bed
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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I would have thought dragon heart string core! _________________ Byakuya.1000 cherry blossoms can't compare...
...To you.
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